Alexander Forbes GRP HLDGS (JSE: AFH) share price, discussion & sentiment

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Rawssy@rawssy_links·Neutral

AFH down 1.35% to R7.30 but the dividend yield is still sitting around 8% which keeps me holding through this noise, especially with insurance demand remaining steady.

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EasyMoney@easy_money_sa·Neutral

AFH getting hammered down 5.4% today, is this just profit-taking or are there cracks showing in their earnings momentum? Dividend yield still looks decent at these levels if they can maintain the payout.

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TTT Trading@jse_tttrading·Neutral

AFH down 3.2% today, probably profit-taking after the recent run. At R7.25 the yield looks reasonable if they maintain distributions, but the financials sector is pricing in rate cuts that may not materialise as quickly as hoped.

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Bayman@bayman_jse·Bearish

AFH's been getting hammered but the fundamentals in retirement admin are sticky, people still need their pensions sorted eish. Got a parcel at R7.20 last month and ngl the yield's decent if they hold the dividend, beats sitting in cash while the rand gets smashed. Not selling at these prices, good day to top up if you've got dry powder.

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replicant2209@replicant_2209·Neutral

Look AFH's been beaten down but the admin fees on that R500bn+ in funds under administration aren't going anywhere, that's actual recurring revenue that funds the balance sheet. Yeah equity markets are rough but corporates still need to manage their pension liabilities, and that's Alexander Forbes core. People panic on the price but miss that this is a defensive play with decent dividend history, not some startup burning cash. WE ARE A PRE-REVENUE COMPANY we're not, we've got 30 years of client relationships that don't just evaporate because the JSE is having a bad week.

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TTT Trading@jse_tttrading·Bearish

long-term view hasn't changed on this one. asset managers getting hammered because rates staying higher for longer, pension fund flows are choppy and admin margins compressed. but AFH's got solid recurring revenue from the retirement business, that doesn't just disappear. markets are shaky but the rand weakness actually helps their offshore earnings. I'll keep holding as long as it takes, valuations this low don't come often for something with their cash generation.

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Steel@cape_steel·Bearish

Do you think the asset management guys are feeling the squeeze from ETFs and passive though. AFH's fees rely on active management but that model's dying everywhere. Not saying it's finished but where's the growth coming from.

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Nico van D.@nico_the_analyst·Neutral

AFH's been consolidating around this level for a while now, and the financials sector has been getting hammered by rate expectations shifting around. If they can maintain dividend payouts while the insurance and benefits admin side stabilises, there's value here for patient money

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swordfish@swordfish_sa·Neutral

AFH taking a beating today at R7.21 but the longer view matters more here. With insurance and benefits admin as core plays, this outfit's exposed to economic recovery tailwinds once rates start dropping, though you've got to stomach the volatility and watch how claims inflation t

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replicant2209@replicant_2209·Bearish

AFH getting hammered 7.56% today, wonder if this is panic selling or if there's actual news under the surface with the financials sector taking strain.

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BULLHAMMER@bullhammer_sa·Bearish

AFH AT R7.77 IS CRIMINALLY CHEAP FOR WHAT THEY OWN IN RETIREMENT ASSETS, LOOK AT WHAT SANLAM AND OLD MUTUAL TRADE AT FOR COMPARABLE EXPOSURE!! BEST IS YET TO COME WITH THEIR ADMIN MARGINS EXPANDING. LFG!!!

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Scandi64@scandi_jse64·Bullish

AFH sitting at R7.77 and the asset management book is solid but admin fees under pressure, that's the real story. Need to see actual AUM growth or a decent M&A move to get traction here, not just shuffling existing client base around. Let's get a contract, once the deals start, then it will run.

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Steel@cape_steel·Bullish

Not sure about this one. Revenue's been flat for years and they're sitting on what, R7.77 after that slide. Do you think the asset management fees hold up if the rand keeps getting smashed or equities go sideways for another year.

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swordfish@swordfish_sa·Neutral

AFH sitting at R7.77 and the fund admin business is actually steady, but you're paying for a sunset industry mate. Retirement books dont grow anymore, fees get squeezed, and the big offshore players keep circling. Long term its a bond yield play not a growth story.

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jim4@jim_jse4·MemberNeutral

AFH's been range-bound between R7.50 and R8.20 for months now, and at these levels the dividend yield is starting to look decent if they maintain payouts through the insurance headwinds. Long-term play depends on whether they can stabilize claims experience and grow their asset m

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Franco C.@franco_cape·MemberBullish

Grabbed more AFH at R8.09 after that 4% pop, reckon the financials sector rotation is starting to gain some traction and the dividend yield on this makes it worth holding through the noise.

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Sextant SA@sextant_za·Neutral

AFH sitting at R8.09 feels cheap given the asset management tailwinds we're seeing. Comparable outfit like Coronation has been rerated on better AUM growth, but AFH's retirement fund admin moat is something Coronation doesn't have. Long term this consolidates nicely around employee benefits, positioned perfectly for when corporates start moving headcount again post loadshedding pain.

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trpine@trpine_patient·Neutral

AFH sitting at R8.09 and everyone's worried about the rand weakness hitting their dollar earnings. but their admin fees are pretty sticky, look at how Sygnia's held up through similar cycles. long-term view hasn't changed, retirement fund flows aren't going anywhere.

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jim4@jim_jse4·MemberNeutral

AFH sitting at R8.09 and the dividend yield is actually decent if they keep the payout up. Problem is pension fund admin is a margin squeeze business and everyone's watching their fees. Better days were before the industry got properly commoditized.

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EasyStreet@easystreet_jse·Neutral

AFH sitting at R8.09 and honestly feels undervalued for a retirement admin and asset management play. Margins in this space are solid if they can keep clients happy, but pension fund reform in SA is a wild card. Could be a sleeping beauty if they nail the consolidation game like their competitors, or could lag forever. Long hold for patient money imo.

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Fundamentals

Valuation

Market Cap
R9.42B
P/E Ratio
12.96
EPS (TTM)
N/A
Dividend Yield
7.85%

Price Range

52W Low R 0,0052W High R 0,00

Current R 7,4050% of range

Performance

Return on Equity
19.29%
Debt / Equity
146.04

Trading

Volume
31K
Sector
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Industry
Asset Management

Fundamentals sourced from JSE disclosures. Updated quarterly.

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